Sports we’ve covered it extensively on this show it’s very unpopular with the public it’s, particularly unpopular in the state of south dakota. South dakota is one of the most republican states in the country. Republicans essentially control the entire state. So republicans in the legislature, there recently passed a bill to prevent this from happening, prevent biological men from playing on women’s sports teams and the governor of south dakota christie. Gnome, who you doubtless have seen said she was quote, excited to sign it. Now she has changed her mind. Governor noman joins us tonight to explain why she has governor thanks so much for coming on. I i appreciate it so here you you have this bill, which i think all polling shows is popular in your state, i think, would be popular nationally. You said you were excited to sign it: big business, intercedes, ncaa, chamber of commerce and amazon and tell you not to sign it, and you change your mind if you, i think, a lot of our viewers are wondering your thinking on this and how exactly this happened. Well, that’s, not true tucker, and thank you for inviting me to be on the show tonight. I could sign the bill the way that it is today uh and then also um, but it wouldn’t solve the problem and and that’s the real issue. As i looked at the bill and examined it and have been discussing with legal scholars for many months on how to protect women’s sports, this bill would only allow the ncaa to bully south dakota and it would actually prevent women from being able to pre to participate.
In collegiate sports, so what i’ve done is i’ve asked the legislature through a style uh and reform i’m. Sorry, but just for our viewers, can you just back up for one second for our viewers who haven’t followed this as closely? How would this bill prevent women from playing in south dakota if you would, because what it would do is it would put a law in the books that would allow the ncaa to take punitive action against our state and we’re. A small state tucker we’ve had to fight hard to get any tournaments to come to south dakota. When they took punitive action against us, we would have to litigate and legal scholars that i have been consulting with. For many. Many months say that i would very likely lose those litigation efforts and i don’t think you’re saying hold on just to be clear: it’s, not the bill you’re saying many times over and over again, but wait wait, wait so you’re saying the ncaa threatened you and you Don’T think you can win that fight. They said if you sign this, we won’t allow girls in south dakota to play and you don’t think you can win in court, even though the public overwhelmingly supports you nationally and so you’re caving to the ncaa. I think that’s. What you’re saying no that’s, not right at all, tucker in fact, you’re wrong, completely i’ve been working on this issue for years. In fact, several years ago i fought, i fought usda to make sure that 4 h rodeo and that the sport of rodeo could keep girls events, girls, events and boys events.
Boys events so i’ve been working on this for many many years and back since november, i’ve been consulting with legal scholars and professors across the country asking them. How do i protect women’s sports and they’ve gone through the steps to how i would legally challenge the ncaa and keep them from bullying the state of south dakota, and what they’ve told me to do is that i need to build a coalition so that’s. Why today, i launched defendtitle9now.com and that’s going to allow us to build a coalition of states that can fight the ncaa, listen i’m sick and tired of the ncaa threatening states, challenging us and bullying us and so we’re going to build a coalition of leaders, athletes and People who want to protect women’s sports and want to make sure that our women keep title ix in place to protect their right, to be competitive and to be rewarded by participating in these team sports and make sure this coalition can fight the ncaa to make sure We’Re protecting title ix, but but these standards far predate title ix and i’m, not exactly sure why title ix is relevant or even really worth defending. I mean this is thousands of years of common sense and tradition. Girls play girls. Sports boys play boy sports. Why not? Instead just say bring it on ncaa i’m a national figure go ahead and try and exclude us. I will fight you in the court of public opinion and defend principle.
Why not just do that? Tucker you’re preaching my sermon, that’s. What i did today today, i with herschel walker, you vetoed the bill with nancy lopez. We all stood together. I did not veto the bill. I did a style, informed revision and asked the legislator legislature to change it so that i can win. Listen. I’M, not interested in a participation trophy i’m, not interested in picking a fight that we can’t win. I am a problem solver i come to the table and i don’t want to have talking points and i’ve been bullied for the last year by liberals, tucker i’m, not going to let anybody from the ncaa from any big business i’m, not going to even let conservatives On the right, bully me i’m going to solve the problem i’m, going to make sure that we’re building strength and numbers and we’re going after the ncaa and make sure that we’re keeping only girls playing in girls. Sports i’ve been doing this for years and i’m. Going to solve the problem not just pick a fight to pick a fight well, but the legislature you’re saying was just picking a fight to pick a fight. I thought that they were trying to codify what the majority of your citizens want, which is girls, sports for girls and boys sports for boys. Here the ncaa comes in and says: if you do that, you’re going to lose a court battle, and so you say well the bill can’t go forward.
You have a democratic process that arose from your own citizens. They want this bill and you’ve stopped it. So i i’m not really sure how this is defending women’s support with respect to bill tucker tucker. The bill that my legislature gave me is a trial, lawyer’s dream. It creates more and more litigation and regulation that’s impossible to comply with for families and for school districts and people going forward. What i’m interested in doing is making sure we’re protecting girls, sports and we’re, going forward to fight the ncaa, and what we’re going to do as well is, if they don’t fix this through the style and form revision i’m, going to ask them to introduce a new Bill, if they don’t do that i’m, going to immediately bring them back into a special session and tell them we’re going to protect girls sports through k, 12 and then we’re going to go and fight the ncaa through a coalition. To make sure that we can continue to protect title ix and defend title ix very very quickly, how would the bill as written, make it harder, as you just said, for girls to participate in sports? You said it’s hard for them to comply with the requirements of the bill. What do you mean for those of us who aren’t following it as closely specifically by that? Well, did you did you read the bill or the style form? I did message that i said to the legislature what it said what it said.
I asked for changes for the regulations and how kids would have to prove their boys and girls. I asked them not to open it up to litigation if a child doesn’t make a team they up to a year later, can come back and sue every member of that team in the k, 12 system and the entire school district as well and continue suing so That they have the opportunity to play. If we put the collegiate athletics on there, then we will get punitively challenged by the end c, double a and then we’ll have to continue to fight them and a court district that is not friendly to winning that’s the. What the legal scholars have told me for many many months is that my chances of winning in court are very, very low. My chances of winning this as you’ve stated in the public opinion is extremely extremely successful, so that’s. Why i’m building this coalition to make sure we’re taking our argument to the public and we’re going to tell the ncaa that this coalition will fight to make sure we’re protecting women’s sports? I appreciate you coming on tonight, governor, christina south dakota.